Comments on: They’re Called Microtests http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/ Towards a Way of Excellence Fri, 06 Jan 2012 00:33:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Octavian Ciubotaru http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 Octavian Ciubotaru Fri, 03 Dec 2010 18:05:30 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-1329 The concept of microtest appeared because unit test frameworks were used for all kinds of tests. In my opinion unit test frameworks are misused. The concept of microtest appeared because unit test frameworks were used for all kinds of tests. In my opinion unit test frameworks are misused.

]]> By: GeePawHill http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-1328 GeePawHill Fri, 03 Dec 2010 17:19:31 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-1328 Gerbrand... it's a good point. Part of my reason for using microtest really is to make people stop short and pay attention. A full range of Xtest words might also be needed. -- GeePaw Gerbrand… it’s a good point. Part of my reason for using microtest really is to make people stop short and pay attention. A full range of Xtest words might also be needed. — GeePaw

]]> By: Gerbrand van Dieijen http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-1327 Gerbrand van Dieijen Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:53:35 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-1327 For consistency, we could get rid of integration-test and call it 'medium-tests' and call any automatic acceptance-tests 'large-tests' instead. For consistency, we could get rid of integration-test and call it ‘medium-tests’ and call any automatic acceptance-tests ‘large-tests’ instead.

]]> By: GeePawHill http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-1326 GeePawHill Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:29:12 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-1326 Josh... I'm working this month with a team of people who maintain those expensive tests to an amazing degree. Like, amazing. I'm so happy to show them how cheap microtests can be. --Geeps Josh… I’m working this month with a team of people who maintain those expensive tests to an amazing degree. Like, amazing. I’m so happy to show them how cheap microtests can be. –Geeps

]]> By: Josh http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-1325 Josh Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:30:19 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-1325 I really like this list. I often get frustrated in interviews or when talking to other people about unit testing because I always have to qualify what I mean. I usually make a big deal about the difference between a Unit Test and Acceptance/Integration test because it is so critical. Most of the time when I encounter teams that are weary about TDD it is because their idea of a Unit Test is what I think of as an Acceptance Test. I often get met with great hostility when I try to tell someone that if their "unit test" requires external dependencies (database, web service, file system) then it isn't really a unit test. I am going to start using this term. I don't think it will reduce the amount explaining I have to do, but at least I will be starting with a clean slate :) I really like this list. I often get frustrated in interviews or when talking to other people about unit testing because I always have to qualify what I mean. I usually make a big deal about the difference between a Unit Test and Acceptance/Integration test because it is so critical.

Most of the time when I encounter teams that are weary about TDD it is because their idea of a Unit Test is what I think of as an Acceptance Test. I often get met with great hostility when I try to tell someone that if their “unit test” requires external dependencies (database, web service, file system) then it isn’t really a unit test.

I am going to start using this term. I don’t think it will reduce the amount explaining I have to do, but at least I will be starting with a clean slate :)

]]> By: David Carlton http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-120 David Carlton Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:23:27 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-120 Thanks, looks good! Thanks, looks good!

]]> By: GeePawHill http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-118 GeePawHill Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:25:26 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-118 Thx! Fixed it. (I *do* wish I could keep comments on the same page as the article. sigh.) Thx! Fixed it. (I *do* wish I could keep comments on the same page as the article. sigh.)

]]> By: Unit testing done right – Better then sliced bread « Perpetual Pursuit of Perfection http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-108 Unit testing done right – Better then sliced bread « Perpetual Pursuit of Perfection Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:44:50 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-108 [...] Write tests before writing the code. It helps to be more clear about the requirements and help to focus the programming efforts. In software development typing is never the bottleneck. Thinking is. Tests make development faster because they help to focus: “How TDD and Pairing Increase Production” and “They’re Called Microtests” [...] [...] Write tests before writing the code. It helps to be more clear about the requirements and help to focus the programming efforts. In software development typing is never the bottleneck. Thinking is. Tests make development faster because they help to focus: “How TDD and Pairing Increase Production” and “They’re Called Microtests” [...]

]]> By: jim http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-55 jim Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:37:31 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-55 Isn't this term already in use? Isn’t this term already in use?

]]> By: Darren Rowley http://anarchycreek.com/2009/05/20/theyre-called-microtests/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Darren Rowley Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:43:19 +0000 http://anarchycreek.com/?p=68#comment-53 I like this, I always used to say - just because it extends JUnit doesn't mean its a unit test. I like this, I always used to say – just because it extends JUnit doesn’t mean its a unit test.

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