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	<title>Comments on: Coaching Against TDD Inhibitors</title>
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		<title>By: GeePawHill</title>
		<link>http://anarchycreek.com/2010/04/28/coaching-against-tdd-inhibitors/comment-page-1/#comment-1205</link>
		<dc:creator>GeePawHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 17:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The extent of the damage caused by frameworks can never truly be measured.

For a case like this, I might create a wrapper for the dataset that can be used by the domain code instead of the dataset. We keep the dataset behind closed doors until the final handing of it to the GUI.

Not sure if that really helps or not. It does make that domain code more testable. But as usual with frameworks, the &quot;you must derive from&quot; requirement easily goes south on us. -- Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The extent of the damage caused by frameworks can never truly be measured.</p>
<p>For a case like this, I might create a wrapper for the dataset that can be used by the domain code instead of the dataset. We keep the dataset behind closed doors until the final handing of it to the GUI.</p>
<p>Not sure if that really helps or not. It does make that domain code more testable. But as usual with frameworks, the &#8220;you must derive from&#8221; requirement easily goes south on us. &#8212; Hill</p>
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		<title>By: NotMyself</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotMyself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious what your take is on leaky abstractions like .NET&#039;s DataSet. It&#039;s easy to hide away sproc calls behind an interface, but the problem is infinitely more of a clusterfuck when the return type is a DataSet that goes all the way out to the UI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious what your take is on leaky abstractions like .NET&#8217;s DataSet. It&#8217;s easy to hide away sproc calls behind an interface, but the problem is infinitely more of a clusterfuck when the return type is a DataSet that goes all the way out to the UI.</p>
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		<title>By: GeePawHill</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeePawHill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom... I&#039;m wondering where to go with my screencasts once the double dawg is complete. Maybe that&#039;s the right place. -- Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom&#8230; I&#8217;m wondering where to go with my screencasts once the double dawg is complete. Maybe that&#8217;s the right place. &#8212; Hill</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Besser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Besser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post!  I would very much like to see more of a deep dive on tips for encapsulating the data access code.  Being able to do this on a legacy code base without necessairily reaching out for a full-fledged O\RM is a challenge I&#039;m continually faced with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post!  I would very much like to see more of a deep dive on tips for encapsulating the data access code.  Being able to do this on a legacy code base without necessairily reaching out for a full-fledged O\RM is a challenge I&#8217;m continually faced with.</p>
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